Presence vampire the masquerade free#

It just seems that, in this particular case, they fumbled the rules design a little.ДЎ) Awe - Add Presence dots to Persuasion and Performance dice pools, and maybe other Charisma-based pools if the ST sees fit. I'm generally a pretty big fan of what they've done with the Disciplines in V5, and my complaint isn't that Presence isn't quite as powerful as it used to be - most of the Disciplines aren't quite as powerful as they used to be until you get them up to Level 5, and that's probably for the best. I never really had a problem with just having narrative and roleplaying guidelines for the powers, and I suppose they still work fine like that, but if the game's going to try to give them defined mechanical effects, some more thought really should have gone into how those effects are going to work. That's still how they're described here - but the problem is that they've also got a mechanical effect, and that mechanical effect is basically the same for the two powers when it really shouldn't be. In previous editions, Awe and Entrancement didn't actually have defined mechanical effects - they just gave guidelines for how the affected targets behaved, with Entrancement causing a much more dramatic shift in their attitude towards the vampire. There should be a reason that you want Entrancement if you already have Awe, and mechanically speaking, there kind of isn't right now. But it still seems to me that, if there's going to be progressively higher-level 'make friends and influence people' powers in Presence, then those powers should get meaningfully more effective at higher levels. The only rationale I can think of for this is that, with the alternate powers, this gives you several different ways to achieve the same effect - you can take Daunt at level one, Lingering Kiss at level 2 and Dread Gaze at level three, and you've still got a way to use Presence to get a social bonus.

Presence vampire the masquerade free#

in exchange for costing a Rouse Check where Awe is free to use? And Entrancement also requires an immediate roll to work (as opposed to a roll that only triggers if the subject knows they're being affected, for Awe). And Entrancement works for all social rolls, not just Charisma-based ones. Lingering Kiss lasts longer - but who cares, when Awe is free to use? Lingering Kiss is described as making the Kiss addictive and drawing people back to get it again - but there's absolutely no mechanical effect for that described in the power.

basically the same thing, except with various restrictions and drawbacks. Awe lets you add Presence dice to social rolls, and then Lingering Kiss and Entrancement let you do. According to the rules for Presence, you can't stack up different powers that add Presence to social rolls, which is what all those powers do. well, mistakes is the only possible word for it. Presence 2 and 3, Lingering Kiss and Entrancement, seem to be. Seriously, though, it's just a simple rules question that's been bugging me since I got a copy of V5 for Christmas. I know, a V5 thread that's not dedicated to complaining about the Hunger mechanic or the Second Inquisition - is that even allowed?